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Central Park accident
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d***@gmail.com
2016-07-08 05:29:21 UTC
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Any info or speculation here on what actually took place July 3 when someone got a foot blown up in Central Park, Manhattan?

Not having heard more in the past few days, I'm guessing it was something like what happened when that guy at a shoot tried disposing of flash powder by spreading it on nearby grass and wetting it down, only to later kick it, apparently in frustration, and set it off. In other words, somehow someone spilled some partly-contained flash in Central Park which ignited who knows how much later when someone stepped in it.

Robert
Peter Fairbrother
2016-07-08 11:51:12 UTC
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Any info or speculation here on what actually took place July 3 when
someone got a foot blown up in Central Park, Manhattan?
Not having heard more in the past few days, I'm guessing it was
something like what happened when that guy at a shoot tried
disposing of flash powder by spreading it on nearby grass and wetting
it down, only to later kick it, apparently in frustration, and set it
off. In other words, somehow someone spilled some partly-contained
flash in Central Park which ignited who knows how much later when
someone stepped in it.
Robert
I know nothing of the accident, but I have once seen a salute shell hit
a fence and break apart, spilling flash powder without igniting it.

I imagine there are many smokers in Central Park...

-- Peter Fairbrother
d***@gmail.com
2016-07-16 18:07:15 UTC
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Any info or speculation here on what actually took place July 3 when someone got a foot blown up in Central Park, Manhattan?
Not having heard more in the past few days, I'm guessing it was something like what happened when that guy at a shoot tried disposing of flash powder by spreading it on nearby grass and wetting it down, only to later kick it, apparently in frustration, and set it off. In other words, somehow someone spilled some partly-contained flash in Central Park which ignited who knows how much later when someone stepped in it.
For those still following this, the compo was determined to be acetone peroxide.
Lloyd E. Sponenburgh
2016-07-16 20:14:31 UTC
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For those still following this, the compo was determined to be acetone
pero= xide.
Well, if that's the case, we can't call it "ordinary" pyrotechnics!

I know... guys experiment; they just do. But depositing a large enough
container of it in a public place to cause that sort of injury smacks of
being a deliberate action. One might almost call it an act of terrorism!

LLoyd
d***@gmail.com
2016-07-18 05:27:17 UTC
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For those still following this, the compo was determined to be acetone
pero= xide.
Well, if that's the case, we can't call it "ordinary" pyrotechnics!
I know... guys experiment; they just do. But depositing a large enough
container of it in a public place to cause that sort of injury smacks of
being a deliberate action. One might almost call it an act of terrorism!
LLoyd
Somehow within hours of the occurrence, NYPD had concluded it was not a deliberate act, but that of an experimenter. Somebody put their acetone peroxide under a rock & just forgot it?
Anon Emous
2016-07-18 21:33:02 UTC
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Somehow within hours of the occurrence, NYPD had concluded it was not a deliberate act, but that of an experimenter. Somebody put their acetone peroxide under a rock & just forgot it?
I'll give you a WAG. Their conclusion was based on the fact that
no ignition source was found.

There do be a SL of stories of commercial firework abandoned/lost only
to show up with consequences most severe.


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"Tramp" explosives or detonators are like
poisonous snakes — usually strike when least
expected. More often than not, they badly maim
or destroy the eyesight or other parts of the
body of their victims.

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d***@gmail.com
2016-07-19 23:41:53 UTC
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Somehow within hours of the occurrence, NYPD had concluded it was not a deliberate act, but that of an experimenter. Somebody put their acetone peroxide under a rock & just forgot it?
I'll give you a WAG. Their conclusion was based on the fact that
no ignition source was found.
There do be a SL of stories of commercial firework abandoned/lost only
to show up with consequences most severe.
That's what I thought when I figured it was flash powder. But hearing it's acetone peroxide, I ruled that out. Maybe someone blowing up rocks for kicks got spooked out of there & never retrieved their load.
Michael Moroney
2016-07-22 00:40:11 UTC
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Post by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh
I know... guys experiment; they just do. But depositing a large enough
container of it in a public place to cause that sort of injury smacks of
being a deliberate action. One might almost call it an act of terrorism!
LLoyd
Somehow within hours of the occurrence, NYPD had concluded it was not a
deliberate act, but that of an experimenter. Somebody put their acetone
peroxide under a rock & just forgot it?
When they said it was an experimenter and not a terrorist, and being set
off by someone stepping/jumping on it, I was guessing it was something
ridiculously sensitive like NI3, too sensitive for a bomb, and the
experimenter got spooked while waiting for the NI3 to dry/go off (a cop
on patrol too close or something). But acetone peroxide is used by many
terrorists so saying it was just an experimenter doesn't make sense.
Tom Biasi
2016-07-22 22:33:52 UTC
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Post by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh
I know... guys experiment; they just do. But depositing a large enough
container of it in a public place to cause that sort of injury smacks of
being a deliberate action. One might almost call it an act of terrorism!
LLoyd
Somehow within hours of the occurrence, NYPD had concluded it was not a
deliberate act, but that of an experimenter. Somebody put their acetone
peroxide under a rock & just forgot it?
When they said it was an experimenter and not a terrorist, and being set
off by someone stepping/jumping on it, I was guessing it was something
ridiculously sensitive like NI3, too sensitive for a bomb, and the
experimenter got spooked while waiting for the NI3 to dry/go off (a cop
on patrol too close or something). But acetone peroxide is used by many
terrorists so saying it was just an experimenter doesn't make sense.
I agree. Perhaps not a terrorist but some sicko who wanted to hurt someone.
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